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| temuchin |
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I didn't even watch this fight so I don't know what's going on but he lost
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| yaominginfohere |
| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:49 pm |
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I watched the fight. it was clear and obvious that Pac won the fight.
the judges are criminals. it's that simple. |
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| Dr. No |
| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:28 am |
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By Lance Pugmire
June 10, 2012, 8:20 p.m.
Quote: LAS VEGAS -- Minutes after Manny Pacquiao entered a post-fight news conference with an unmarked face, his injured opponent Timothy Bradley was wheeled into the same room.
"There were three judges, and two of them thought I won," Palm Springs' Bradley said of his victory over Pacquiao. "What do you want me to do?"
Bradley made it through the 12-round bout despite suffering a fractured left foot and a twisted right ankle during the fight, according to his manager Cameron Dunkin.
Yet, Bradley's performance was enough to convince judges C.J. Ross and Duane Ford that he beat Pacquiao, 115-113, resulting in a stunning split-decision triumph in the world welterweight title fight at MGM Grand. Judge Jerry Roth scored the fight 115-113 for Pacquiao.
Many at ringside thought the decision went the wrong way, in part because Pacquiao out-connected Bradley in punches, 253-159, in the fight.
"Yeah, Bradley landed here and there with no impact, but Pacquiao was landing power punches, particularly his straight left hand, with rhythmic regularity," said boxing play-by-play man Jim Lampley of HBO, whose unofficial scorer Harold Lederman gave Pacquiao a dominant triumph, 11 rounds to one.
"Nobody wants to give Tim credit but the judges -- and they've probably seen some fights," Bradley trainer Joel Diaz said. "By moving, I think Tim dominated the fight."
Diaz, noting that all three judges awarded Bradley (29-0) at least four of the final six rounds, likened the victory to Felix Trinidad's surprise 1999 decision win over a backpedaling Oscar De La Hoya.
"You've got to win the last rounds to win a fight," Diaz said.
As the scores were passed from the judges to ring announcer Michael Buffer, Lampley said an HBO staffer told him in his earpiece, "You're not going to believe what you're about to hear."
Lampley said he was "disgusted enough by the decision to question my commitment to boxing for about two hours last night."
According to his contract, because Pacquiao lost the fight he can request a rematch against Bradley. But fight promoter Bob Arum said it's not a given that the two will reunite for another bout in November.
Arum said he's heard from some ticket brokers that "no one wants to come" to a Bradley rematch because most fight watchers considered Pacquiao's effort a one-sided victory.
"The only thing I can think that would prevent a rematch is Manny saying, 'Why do I need this anymore?'" Lampley said. "In the wake of this disappointment, and with all the other things happening in his life, this could be his moment."
Pacquiao's first words to reporters after the fight were, "That's why we love boxing."
Bradley earned $5 million for his bout against Pacquiao. Bradley manager Dunkin said he would expect a rematch purse to be "something near" $10 million now that Bradley has the belt.
Pacquiao's alternatives would be to try to finalize a deal to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr., or have a fourth fight against Juan Manuel Marquez.
As for Bradley, Dunkin said, "To go through those rounds with the great Manny Pacquiao in that condition … there will be great options ahead for Tim Bradley."
Despite concerns that Pacquiao (54-4-2) had been flat in his two prior fights, many at ringside thought the Filipino superstar seemed to have returned closer to his peak.
"I think the judges had their eyes closed," Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach said. "Something wasn't right."
Pacquiao said he would "respect the decision, but I 100% believe I won the fight. I hope this dismay doesn't cause people to discard the sport. I'm still here. I can fight."
Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer said he does not anticipate any discipline or review of Ross or Ford.
"Every fighter who loses a close fight looks at the judges," Kizer said. "I think every judge should strive to get better."
Las Vegas Hilton Race and Sports Book Director Jay Kornegay said that boxing needs to "change its system," by adding replay or "the punch stats."
"It created such an ugly atmosphere in the sports book," Kornegay said. "Many felt ripped off, and I've got to agree. It was a debacle for a sport that can't afford it."
Pacquiao now hasn't knocked out an opponent in five consecutive fights. He said meeting Bradley again "would make me become a warrior in the ring.
"Because I don't want it to go to the judges." |
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| voyd |
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:29 pm |
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Well, turns out that the 2 judges who gave Pacman the low blows, Duane Ford (74) and Cynthia J. Ross (71), may have done so as payback for his anti-gay marriage belief.
Cynthia is allegedly bisexual and Duane gay - 2 liberal Democrats who presumably strongly support gay marriage.
Who then exploited and abused their positions as judges to suckerpunch Pacman. |
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| temuchin |
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:29 pm |
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have them officiate Pac-Mayweather then
Floyd actually hates gay ppl while Pac is just an ignorant rube
so teh gays should go for Pacquiao
seriously though I think if you're going with a conspiracy theory then Arum is more likely. it might be butthurt gays but if there's a fix it's probably money. arum has already pissed me after years of no pacquiao mayweather so I'm going to blame Arum for with absolutely no substantiation. because the ****** wants to keep milking paydays off pacquiao instead of setting up the fight everyone wants and the flip is too stupid to do anything about it
I didn't watch this ****** because I'm not going to pay to watch Pacquiao fight a series of stiffs but I went back and stole the torrent and that fight was just lol. seriously the punch disparity was just so ****** obvious. talk about these judges having huge balls to be that wrong on national TV and then they're actually trying to justify it. lol |
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| Dr. No |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:26 am |
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voydstein wrote: Well, turns out that the 2 judges twho gave Pacman the low blows, Duane Ford (74) and Cynthia J. Ross (71), may have done so as payback for his anti-gay marriage belief.
what else is new
voydstein is slipping a bit; he forgot to blame that NY Jew, Arum, for the outcome |
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| Dr. No |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:30 am |
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temuchin wrote: if you're going with a conspiracy theory then Arum is more likely. if there's a fix it's probably money.
that said, Arum would milk a lot more $$$$ with pac man winning  |
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| voyd |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:19 pm |
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Dr. No wrote: temuchin wrote: if you're going with a conspiracy theory then Arum is more likely. if there's a fix it's probably money. i m of the belief that, if there is a fix, money is the underlying factor.
that said, Arum would milk a lot more $$$$ with pac man winning
In short - he did it all for the money, so that he could make LESS money!!
Gee, what an interesting, self-contradictory theory that defies all human psychology and logic!
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| Dr. No |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:27 pm |
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the WASP-worshipping Voydstein is publicizing that he has poor reading comprehension |
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| temuchin |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:08 pm |
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not much to be said. Moranus owns himself again in his own post:
Dr. Moranus wrote: i m of the belief that, if there is a fix, money is the underlying factor.
Dr. Moranus wrote: that said, Arum would milk a lot more $$$$ with pac man
Dr. Moranus wrote: Arum fixed it so that he would make less money
Moranus you tard. why would you even agree with me if you dont have reason for it?
the conspiracy theory is that Arum fixed it so that he would make a MORE money, not less money
- force Pac to re-up with Arum
- give Pac less leverage in his new deal with Arum
- allow Arum to continue to set up boughts between Pac and fighters that he owns
all of which is designed to make MORE money not less. even when you end up at a reasonable conclusion it's like random blind luck. you dont even have reasons to get from point A to point B
honestly I don't know what happened. it was just weird all the way. something obviously is going on I dont know what.
FWIW. yes Arum is a jew. obviously. he's so much of a jew that even Moranus realizes he's a jew. that woman voyd posted is probably a jewess as well. old lady fight judge from vegas, named Ross. if that's her original name 9/10 she's probably jewish.
so Moranus you drop the ball on that too |
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