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| YM |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:57 am |
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With Kevin McHale, the Rockets ran an offense heavy on point guard pick-and-rolls that suit Lin. If the Rockets do pull off a trade for Dwight Howard, rather than diminish the point guard by adding a star, the Rockets would post up their center, but would still be able to run pick-and-roll and do it with a devastating finisher.
http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/linsanitys-arrival-in-houston-still-in-limbo/
Quote: “This offense is guard oriented,” Rockets forward Josh Harrellson, Lin’s teammate with the Knicks said. “He’s going to have the ball the majority of the time. If you look at our roster, he’s going to be our superstar. In New York, you can’t say the same. Hopefully, he can come here, the offense can run through him and he can make all the decisions for us.
“As you can see, we don’t have a point guard right now. Right now, it’s instant minutes for him. For a kid that wants to play basketball and be part of a team and make it successful, hopefully he can come and do that for us.”
Signs abound that he will get his wish. But after so many odd turns, the Rockets will believe it when they see it. Either way, for Lin, it has been an interesting seven months. |
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| Yaofan15 |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:01 am |
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Going to houston might be good for Lin, but I'm shaking my head at how much the media is going after Lin when none of this is really his fault. Why is he being blamed for the Rockets' decision to offer him this salary? I mean, is he supposed to say no? Would any of the other Knicks players (besides stoudamire, anthony, and chandler) say no?
I understand ESPN = BSPN, but can't they find ONE Asian American on air that's pro-Lin to balance out all the negative filth spewed against him? |
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| nig1 |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:08 am |
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tharock220 wrote: The Rockets overpaid big time for this guy. I still think Morey was planning on the Knicks matching and the Bulls matching for Asik with the goal of hurting their ability to make roster moves down the road.
The Rockets can absorb the contract. Les is by no means a poor owner, and it's a big market flush with oil wealth.
yup, while Dragic and Lowry are better players, Lin won't have any problems running Kevin McHale's simplified offense. Lin should thrive but won't post up inflated stats like he did under D'Antoni's junk offense. |
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| pryuen |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:09 am |
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temuchin wrote:
either way Morey has trolled NY. whatever Dolan does ppl are going to be pissed as ******.
really, if NY wanted to take care of it, they would have offered Lin like 4 for 24 weeks ago and Lin probably would have signed
there's a lot of misinformation out there but it's common as a SIGN OF GOOD FAITH for teams to make the first offer. how they are treating lin is blatant disrespect. basically telling him "try to get a better offer than peanuts" and then get mad when he does
ABSOLUTELY !!!!!!
The New York Knicks management have themselves to blame and they will pay HEAVILY for their blatant disrespect if eventually Daryl Morey manages to steal the jewel from their crown !!!!
It should not have to come to this kind of ******* situation.  |
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| temuchin |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:36 am |
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nig0 wrote: tharock220 wrote: The Rockets overpaid big time for this guy. I still think Morey was planning on the Knicks matching and the Bulls matching for Asik with the goal of hurting their ability to make roster moves down the road.
The Rockets can absorb the contract. Les is by no means a poor owner, and it's a big market flush with oil wealth.
yup, while Dragic and Lowry are better players, Lin won't have any problems running Kevin McHale's simplified offense. Lin should thrive but won't post up inflated stats like he did under D'Antoni's junk offense.
lol nig0 is trying to talk about basketball
but fagget is too scared to post anything so he pretends to piggyback on the one poster who hasn't railed him and act like he's agreeing with something rock posted.
moron, rock is talking contracts. it has nothing to do with the crap you posted. why are you so scared? it is because every time you try to post earnestly about basketball you get owned?
is lin going to THRIVE or is he FAIL TO PUT UP STATS. you disagree with yourself in your own post
and which of his stats are inflated? you probably just posted that because you can't help but make ****** up even when you're trying to be cereal but let's give you the benefit of the doubt.
let's pretend you are in the process of immigrating from Troll Country, your homeland, to the US. try using WORDS (white boy rap lyrics dont count) to establish any of what you've posted
which of his stats were inflated? how do you define that, since you obviously know basketball.
Lin's PER, TS%, AST% even TRB% and steals are good. his scoring is highly correlated to wins so his WS is good. all those stats are prorated
I mean good job trying to pull yourself out of the trailer park and make a legitimate post. Sadly however, other than contradicting yourself as a starting point for your basketball analysis and dropping random claims about overrated and junk office because your inner essence is troll, it's just funny that even trying to post the most lukewarm, noncommittal general nonsense about BBALL you fail miserably
your post says nothing. yet you still contradict yourself, make statements you can't back up and generally FAIL. at trying to post nothing...
lol this moranuson |
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| hezudao |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:42 am |
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Dang the Knicks realgm forum is going to meltdown. I was reading the big Lin thread yesterday and checked it again this afternoon to find out that there was already a new one up that went to 100 over pages. Then I realized it was not part 2 but part 3. Now part 4 is up. This is getting crazy.
But I have to admit its getting weird. Few days ago I was 99 % sure Lin will be in NY. Then the new contract, I was less sure but still 85% positive. Now with this trade and all the new rumors and jr and melo talking down Lin's worth, Im kinda thinking Lin being matched isn't a forgone conclusion after all. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes was there a breakdown in relationship between Lin and the Nay front office? |
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| superjohn |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:58 am |
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| Even this stupid JR Smith is bad-mouthing Jeremy Lin. |
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| pryuen |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:28 am |
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hezudao wrote:
But I have to admit its getting weird. Few days ago I was 99 % sure Lin will be in NY. Then the new contract, I was less sure but still 85% positive. Now with this trade and all the new rumors and jr and melo talking down Lin's worth, Im kinda thinking Lin being matched isn't a forgone conclusion after all. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes was there a breakdown in relationship between Lin and the Nay front office?
Well, personally don't think there is a breakdown of relationship between Jeremy Lin and New York Knicks front office.
I guess James Dolan relaizes Jeremy Lin is a cash cow that had brought and will bring lots of $$$$$$$$ to the franchise.
But for the Mike Woodson, Camel and JR Smith, personally think they just don't realize or treasure Jeremy's worth to their team.
I almost choked when I read JR Smith said that he will prefer the 39-year-old Jason Kidd starting than Jeremy Lin.
I think JR Smith said that for a SELFISH reason. As Landry Fields and Tony Douglas had been traded away, and Iman Shumpert still recovering from his ACI rupture, could still be out for a couple of months in the new season, so very likely JR Smith will be starting as the shooting guard for the Knicks.
That could be an important stretch in his career; if he performs well, he could have secured the starting position even if Iman Shumpert later returns from his injury.
But JR Smith is the type of player that needs the ball all the time. If Jeremy Lin is the starting point guard, given Jeremy's offesensive prowess and aggressiveness, then JR Smith fears he would not have ample control/possession of the ball. But if an old and fading Jason Kidd is playing as the point, then he could have ball control and in turn more shot attempts so as to pad up his own stats to secure his starter position. |
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| temuchin |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:28 am |
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ppl just lobbying against Lin, thus all the leaks and negative articles
it makes sense for them to match Lin. I think the intention is to match. but they might sway Dolan. CAA Camel Woodson trying to get Lin out so they can have the Camel show instead of Linsanity |
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| temuchin |
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:36 am |
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pryuen wrote: hezudao wrote:
But I have to admit its getting weird. Few days ago I was 99 % sure Lin will be in NY. Then the new contract, I was less sure but still 85% positive. Now with this trade and all the new rumors and jr and melo talking down Lin's worth, Im kinda thinking Lin being matched isn't a forgone conclusion after all. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes was there a breakdown in relationship between Lin and the Nay front office?
Well, personally don't think there is a breakdown of relationship between Jeremy Lin and New York Knicks front office.
I guess James Dolan relaizes Jeremy Lin is a cash cow that had bought and will bring lots of $$$$$$$$ to the franchise.
But for the Mike Woodson, Camel and JR Smith, personally think they just don't realize or treasure Jeremy's worth to their team.
I almost choked when I read JR Smith said that he will prefer the 39-year-old Jason Kidd starting than Jeremy Lin.
I think JR Smith said that for a SELFISH reason. As Landry Fields and Tony Douglas had been traded away, and Iman Shumpert still recovering from his ACI rupture, could still be out for a couple of months in the new season, so very likely JR Smith will be starting as the shooting guard for the Knicks.
That could be an important stretch in his career; if he performs well, he could have secured the starting position even if Iman Shumpert later returns from his injury.
But JR Smith is the type of player that needs the ball all the time. If Jeremy Lin is the starting point guard, given Jeremy's offesensive prowess and aggressiveness, then JR Smith fears he would not have ample control/possession of the ball. But if an old and fading Jason Kidd is playing as the point, then he could have ball control and in turn more shot attempts so as to pad up his own stats to secure his starter position.
if you go back to when D Antoni was fired I talked about how Lin should have stood up for him and how it would bite him in the *****
even for selfish reasons he should have stopped being Chinese for a minute and stood up for the guy who played him. even if to just keep allies around him. the Knicks had no clear vision and Lin had many enemies around him, namely Camel. even the media tried to warn Lin about it but he like an Asian American paid no heed to it
there are very few people left on the team who feel invested in Lin
- Camel obviously because even if the team succeeds with Lin, he himself will be diminished
- JR Smith, Kidd and all the guards. obviously playing for PT. not likely longterm Knicks so couldn't care less about Lin's longterm development or the longterm benefit to the Knicks
- Woodson. inclined to doubt Lin. rather have a veteran black PG whom he can count on and control
- Landry Fields, JJ, even Jorts all gone
- Novak has no say
- Amare and Chandler will not stand up for Lin.
Basically you have Grunwald, who surely knows Lin's value in term of basketball and understand how Lin isn't the one putting the Knicks over the cap and Dolan who obviously would want Lin for many reasons (financial, prestige, media attention, as a chip versus other NY sports teams)
management probably wants Lin. but obviously if the star, coach, CAA, media all want Lin out I think they'll have to re evaluate it |
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