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| temuchin |
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:47 pm |
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D.C.’s Marion Barry widely rebuked for comments about Asian business owners
Quote: Most politicians try to keep their victory speeches short, sweet and platitudinous. But most politicians aren’t Marion Barry.
The D.C. Council member and former four-term mayor used the moments after learning of his Ward 8 primary win Tuesday to criticize Asian owners of businesses in his ward, suggesting that they close their “dirty shops.” His racially loaded remarks prompted a torrent of criticism Thursday and distracted from Barry’s sweeping victory in a third consecutive Democratic primary.
“We’ve got to do something about these Asians coming in, opening up businesses, those dirty shops,” he said in the course of laying out his vision for the ward. “They ought to go. I’ll just say that right now, you know. But we need African American businesspeople to be able to take their places, too.”
The remarks were captured on camera by WRC-TV (Channel 4), which first reported the remarks late Wednesday. Even longtime allies were shocked that Barry, who came of age in the civil rights movement, would express his concerns in such brazenly racial terms.
Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D), the District’s nonvoting member of Congress and a fellow civil rights veteran, told Barry that she was “stunned by the offensive nature of the comments,” according to a statement.
Norton, the statement said, “reminded Barry of how long she had known him and the values they first shared when they were students together in the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee in the South fighting for racial justice.”
Mayor Vincent C. Gray (D), D.C. Council Chairman Kwame R. Brown (D) and several other Democratic council colleagues released statements or gave interviews repudiating Barry’s comments.
Barry backs off
By late Thursday, Barry backed off the remarks, saying through his Twitter account that he is “very sorry for offending the Asian American community” with an “admittedly bad choice of words.” But he continued to voice concern about conditions at some restaurants and other businesses in Ward 8, which he said are owned mainly by Asians.
“I admit, I could and should have said it differently. But the facts are still very present in our daily lives here,” he tweeted. “We are tired of sub-standard treatment, tired of being kept [at] arms length distance, tired of the lack of community engagement.”
Barry said in an interview that the apology was heartfelt: “It is as solid as Marion Barry can make it. And believe it, because I have a history of not doing anything to purposely disparage any group of people.”
Outrage had mounted through the day. One Facebook page appeared to demand that Barry apologize to the Asian community, and by late Thursday, it had more than 200 “likes.” In a joint statement, five suburban Maryland lawmakers of Asian descent — Democratic state Dels. Sam Arora, Kumar P. Barve, Susan C. Lee, Aruna Miller and Kris Valderrama — called on Barry to apologize.
“At best, Mr. Barry’s attack on Asian Americans is deeply troubling, and at worst it is race baiting,” they said.
It is the second time in recent years Barry has alienated members of a minority group. A longtime supporter of gay rights as mayor, he vexed most gay and lesbian leaders by announcing his opposition to same-sex marriage in 2009.
As the outcry loudened Thursday, Barry initially stood by his comments. He said in a midday interview that his critics should “get to know Marion Barry and his stellar record on civil rights” — including Asian matters.
“I’ve spent the last 50 years of my life fighting for justice and equality of all people,” he said. “Those five people don’t know Marion Barry at all. They know my name; they don’t know my record.”
That record, he noted, includes establishing a sister city relationship with Beijing, helping to erect the Chinatown Friendship Archway and establishing the city Office of Asian-Pacific Islander Affairs during his four terms as mayor.
But he gave voice to decades-old tensions between the largely black residents of the District’s poorest neighborhoods and the many Asian owners of the carryout, convenience and liquor stores that serve them. The shops, he said, are dirty and unwelcoming, often placing thick bulletproof plexiglass between customers and employees.
“I’m not doing anything except trying to have a renaissance of our community and get some respect. A number of these restaurants serve high-caloric food, bad food, et cetera, but the more important thing, they don’t participate in the community,” Barry said. “That’s what I object to. I don’t care who it is.”
Asked why he singled out Asians in his remarks, Barry said: “Because that’s reality. Who owns these little restaurants? Who owns them? You know, Asians. . . . 90 percent of all the small restaurants in Ward 8, at least.” It is difficult to verify that claim.
He added, “We’re spending our money there, and we demand respect. We demand they participate in community affairs. We demand they give jobs to Ward 8 people regardless of their cultural situation. That’s as American as apple pie.”
Barry tweeted photos Thursday of the facade and interior of a Congress Heights carryout and added, “Funny how folk expect us to sit down, shut up and expect lower standards than what they enjoy in their communities.” It is not clear whether the business is Asian-owned.
‘Very offended’
The owner of the restaurant, the China Inn Deli, said he was “very offended” by Barry’s comments. “It’s because of the neighborhood and how it is,” said the man, who did not give his name. “It’s a low-income community. The crime rate is high. We just have to make a living.”
The use of plexiglass, in particular, not only creates a physical barrier but also represents what divides the businesses and residents. Barry’s Congress Heights neighborhood, for instance, suffered a recent spree of violent robberies, including one in which a gas station attendant was fatally shot. But many residents consider it insulting that businesses insist on bulletproof barriers.
Council member Yvette M. Alexander (D-Ward 7) said she does not patronize shops that have erected plexiglass. “It sends the wrong message for the residents of a community,” she said. “It sends the message that we’re all criminals.”
One prominent Korean entrepreneur criticized Barry for lumping all Asian business owners together, but he said he understood the root of his concerns with “dirty shops.”
“He shouldn’t have said Asians,” said Gary Cha, who owns the Yes! Organic grocery chain. But he added that “any of those people running a dirty store that have an adverse impact on the community should go. And sometimes I am ashamed some of the Asian business owners don’t spend the time to keep the stores in a respectful manner.”
He added, “I do go around and say, ‘Look, if you clean your store, your business will probably go up by 65 percent — no-brainer.’ I’ve probably said that a thousand times to people, but it doesn’t work. . . . In that sense I am with [Barry], but just like saying things about African Americans — not all African Americans do certain things.”
Cha — who said relations between Asian businesses and the black residents they serve are “a sensitive issue” — has opened an east-of-the-Anacostia River store on Pennsylvania Avenue SE, in Ward 7, but he has no locations in Ward 8. He is a past president of the Korean-American Grocers Association, which lobbies on behalf of Asian small-business owners.
Like many of the city’s Asian leaders, Cha fondly recalls steps that Barry took as mayor to involve them in the city government. He also noted Barry’s advancing age — he’s 76 — in saying, “I think we should just let it go.”
“I’m sure a lot of people will disagree with my view, but that’s what makes this country such a great place to live and work,” Cha said. “You can disagree with people and still be friends, and I totally disagree with him, 100 percent, but that doesn’t mean he’s going to be my enemy or I am his enemy.”
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| Malorkayel |
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:34 pm |
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Welcome to America!
Democracy at it's finest. Keep blacks out of jail and instead let them run businesses! Asians need to know their place. The blacks didn't fight for justice to let Asians climb over their backs. |
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| jungle |
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:50 am |
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| i always thought the fight for their justice would have given blacks an advantage in this country. i guess freedom is delusional when your only fighting for a free meal. |
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| voyd |
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:56 pm |
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Some Blacks have been b*tching about Asians or Whites setting up tiny shops and services in their ghettos for decades now...
When they are always damn LUCKY that ANYONE would even be INSANE enough to invest their nest eggs starting small businesses in URBAN WARZONES - and providing some civilization and basic services to all their local residents. All to "exploit" a bunch of welfare bums for a few food stamps?
Which is evident whenever they do succeed in running all the non-Blacks outta town and the entire city implodes like a Black hole. And then they start begging non-Blacks to move back in to re-gentrify it (see Detroit).
So, Marion should be THANKING Asians - not scapegoating them for a city full of Black fail that is simply NOT self-sufficient!!
And this is coming from a mayor who got arrested for smoking crack (1990) & cheating on his wife? That Black (and obedient "Democratic minority" Asian) voters keep knowingly re-electing...because he's also racist on top of that!  |
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| temuchin |
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:37 pm |
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Bich set me up!
Asians set up shop there simply because they had no other choice and because they came over believing on faith that America was equal opportunity. If they actually understood what black areas were like during the crack epidemic, with people being shot every day and high ***** addicts coming into your stores with guns and knives even Asians wouldn't have gone into those areas.
We're talking about it in the other thread white flight is real but BLACK FLIGHT is real too. the first thing black folks do when they get some scratch is to get the ****** out of the ghetto and to a middle class black or integrated neighborhood. You see it in West Adams. When the middle class blacks come in the white people moved out because they know what's coming next. When the lower class blacks came, rich blacks and middle class blacks got the ****** out. It's like that in Detroit and DC as well. The crime in those areas were inconceivable. Even Jesse Jackson was scared to walk at night in DC. No one wants to live in those conditions, least of all blacks who can get out.
Even as late as the 90s there were NO MOVIE THEATERS in Harlem. Think about that. National chains would not go into black neighborhoods. Black businesses WOULD NOT GO into black neighborhoods. The only people who would go into these areas were Asians. They were people who'd get up at 4 AM, drive and get supplies and risk life and limb for 16 hours a day every day for decades so that these communities would have somewhere to buy milk, cigarettes, malt liquor etc. They'd spend their entire day struggling with shoplifters and punks and dealing with open racism from kids and old people, all for having the nerve to think that in America your race should not deter you from setting up a business in a certain area.
For their part, blacks were ignorant where these "asian" came from and frankly, could care less other than holding a racist resentment of Asians who had businesses in their neighborhoods. They were willing to embrace the Slave Mentality and have whites and Jews over them but having "Asians leapfrogging them" was unbearable ignominy. I mean Marion Barry did not march on Selma to so some ***** could come into "THEIR" neigborhoods
In those communities in the 80s they didn't know a Korean from a Chinese from a Viet. They were insistent that the US government or CIA were funding Asian storeowners... because well... how else does anyone get a business or get anything without the government giving it to them. It seemed like bullshit that these people had just come over from Vietnam or w/e and in a few years already have their own business when Jerome has been on the block for 32 years getting high and he doesn't have a business.
for his part look at how Dr Moranus reacts. he can't bring himself to admit that blacks targeted Asians. his Liberal ideology literally cannot internalize that fact... even though he supposedly lived in LA during the riots. so he has to say ****** about "Middle Easterners" or some other nonsense, as if the LA pogrom involved Middle Easterners or Albanians or w/e. Yeah because Ice Cube wrote "Black Korea" about Middle Easterners. Genius |
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| Malorkayel |
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:38 pm |
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The social news media is getting bad too. None of the english speaking posters are defending Chinese.
It's almost like if a person learn english, they learn to bash china and chinese.
Blacks get treated like sh1t too, but white people learned how to do it subtly. Europeans and Australians just run their ignorant mouths off with impunity on Asians.
Kind of why Jeremy Lin was a big deal, and black people don't get it.
And to get back on topic: I know first hand that Asians take a lot of risk with businesses in bad black neighborhoods. Chinese takeout have bars and bulletproof glass, like White Castle. If you don't get robbed or killed you can make your initial investment back in 1 year. My friend was making 100k a year on his takeout but he was working 16 hours a day 7 days a week. That work is no joke. |
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| temuchin |
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:36 pm |
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well the one thing that Asians love to do is rail on other Asians of the same ethnicity and feel superior.
like Dr Moranus.
if they speak english or think they've learned something from Western culture that is superior to Chinese or not understood by Chinese they lord it over them. of course they dont say ****** to blacks or jews or whites whose politics and culture they internalize without question.
it's not like Asian business people are saints. they often are alienated from the community and the treat it precisely as a business. but they deal with a lot of racism, and frankly danger and hate.
the Left hates Asians as much as the Right hates Asians. this is what Dr Moranus and that one dude who was railing about Republicans a while back don't understand. it's not the Right that controls Hollywood or places admissions quotas at Ivy League colleges. it's not only racism that dictates the hate but a lack of identification in society, which obviously will affect individuals regardless of political orientation. black civil rights leaders dont give a ****** about Asian rights or struggle and jewish leaders often see Asians as competition. |
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