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| temuchin |
 Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:57 am |
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koensayr wrote: A little more info about the students from a friend who knows people at USC. Apparently, the news paper article got it really wrong.... I guess not a big surprise there.
The student bought the car as a 2nd hand car, it is a 2003 model with 80k miles on it, far from a brand new car. The two were working on a school project in the library, then the guy drove the girl home and they were shot on the street where she lived.
the writer simply made assumptions about the deceased based on race. he's Chinese he must be a wealthy expat. ergo crime must be carjack
not to go all malorkayel but the article has a lot of racial overtones. half of the article is about Chinese students flooding into the US. that has nothing to do with anything.
if the victim is Jewish do they spend all day talking about how many Jews are at USC or how rich they are? if they were black does the media talk about "why were they even there in the first place" and stuff about blacks all day.
it's not racist or anything, fairly innocuous but there's a different standard. typically race and national origin are off limits but they can't resist a subconscious dig at the same yellow peril... hey do you know how many Chinese are over here now? driving around in nice cars in black neighborhoods?
I dont think it's even calculated in this case. You'd think reporters would spend more time getting the facts and questioning what happened, but they're Chinese they're clueless rich it's a carjack. The more interesting part for them is talking about the numbers of Chinese at USC which has nothing to do with anything
say the shooter is black. will they apply the same standard? the next article is going to go on all day how poor and violent blacks are? the article wont even mention the RACE OF THE SHOOTER in that case when he is caught. |
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| temuchin |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:09 am |
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Dr. Moranus wrote:
even when USC was built, in the late 1800s, the neighborhood was not considered affluent. neighborhoods like Miracle Miles, Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Bel Air were affuent in the 1950s, at the time the USC neighborhood was a working class area.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. another gem from Moranus
The most basic and noob source in the world (that any Los Angelino would already know) says:
Quote: West Adams is one of the oldest neighborhoods in Los Angeles, with most of its buildings erected between 1880 and 1925
yet Dr Moranus declares:
Dr. Moranus wrote:
not affluent
here are some of the NONEXISTENT (in Moranusworld) buildings built DURING THAT NONAFFLUENT PERIOD
Doheny Mansion
Stimson House
Fitzgerald House
all residences of 19th century MILLIONAIRES and INDUSTRIALISTS, who everyone knows are
Dr. Moranus wrote:
not affluent
in fact:
Quote: In total more than 70 sites in West Adams have received recognition as a Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument, a California Historical Landmark, or by listing on the National Register of Historic Places.
all built in this period that Dr Moranus has declared:
Dr. Moranus wrote:
not affluent
we know that to Dr Moranus, "after the 50s" means THE FIFTIES lol. the only real question is
- does Dr Moranus know what affluent means? |
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| Dr. No |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:01 pm |
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Dr. No wrote: temuchin wrote: that part of South Central used to be an affluent area  but after the 50s it's a black area: ie crime infested. dumb sh it, stop publicizing your ignorance.
it was not affluent in the 50s, nor before WW2. South Central LA has always been a working class neighborhood. before the war, it was mostly white working class area. 
Turd wouldn't know about Adams blvd, from Figureroa, or Venice or Pico or Jefferson.
before WW2, south central was a working class neighborhoood, mostly whites, with some Japansese Americans.
after WW2, many new Aerospace cos started in LA. many Black GI stay and got relatively good-paying jobs. with GI benefits, they were able to buy homes in So central----not the West side nor Miracle Miles nor Beverly Hills nor Pasadena, which were / are where the affuents live.
this influx of Blacks triggered the white flight to the Suburbs. post Korea war resulted in another wave of Black GIs moving into So central LA
By the early 1950s, there were already two waves of influx of Blacks to So Central LA. two waves of white flight to the suburbs there are 3 movies that provide some historicall insight into LA.
"Chinatown" tells the story of fight over water rights, leading to the annexation of the San Fernando Valley as part of LA, which later became the destination of many of the whites flighting from So Central LA.
"LA Confidential" tells about the corruption / bigotry in LA politics and the police force in the 40s and 50s. this supports the point that Black were allowed to live in So Central LA (in the 40s and 50s) cos it is not an affluent area. Affluent neightborhoods, in the 1950s-such as Miracle Miles, West LA, Beverly Hills, would not have let any Blacks live there.
"The Devil in a Blue Dress" tells the story of the first wave of influx of Blacks to So Central LA shortly after WW2.
Quote: In the summer of 1948, WW2 veteran Easy Rawlins is recently laid off from his job at Champion Aircraft, and needs money urgently to pay his mortgage. Easy recounts how he moved to Los Angeles after serving in WW-II when his friend Joppy (Mel Winkler), who runs a bar, introduces him to a white man named DeWitt Albright (Tom Sizemore).
Albright is looking for someone to help him find a missing white woman, Daphne Monet (Jennifer Beals), assumed to be hiding somewhere in the Black community; he also learns she is the girlfriend of wealthy Todd Carter (Terry Kinney), who was the favorite in the Los Angeles mayoral race before dropping out. Albright, who says Carter dropped out because he couldn't find Monet, offers Rawlins $100 to take the job. Easy accepts but is immediately suspicious of Albright. Monet is known to spend time in the black juke joint clubs in South Central Los Angeles and Easy begins his search at an illegal club on 89th and Central. |
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| temuchin |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:28 pm |
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HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Dr Moranus gets his history from LA Confidential and Denzel Washington.
you're retarded
Dr. Moranus wrote:
not affluent
Dr. Moranus wrote:
no mansions
but in the REAL WORLD:
and white flight had nothing to do with the KOREAN WAR. you ****** retard. seriously how can you live life just making ****** up in your head? you see a MOVIE with a Korean War vet coming back from war and in your imbecile brain you make the association white flight = korean war.
and you are COMPLETELY IGNORANT of the basics of urbanization.
it wasn't the Korean War you ****** moron it was THE FREEWAY SYSTEM that made it possible for people to commute from the SUBURBS to their jobs IN THE CITY. it's a basic building block of urban planning and history and you're completely ignorant.
if you knew ANYTHING you'd know that Jews like Robert Moses literally used FREEWAYS to deliberately racially segregate communities as detailed by Robert Caro and other award winning writers.
and blacks didn't move into West Adams after the Korean War or whatever bullshit timetable you invented in your head. like Harlem it was a center of black community MUCH EARLIER. which you'd know if you knew ANYTHING about LA
Quote: The development of the West Side, Beverly Hills and Hollywood, beginning in the 1910s, siphoned away much of West Adams' upper-class white population; upper-class blacks began to move in around this time, although the district was off limits to all but the very wealthiest African-Americans. One symbol of the area's emergence as a center of black wealth at this time is the 1948 headquarters of Golden State Mutual Life, a late-period Art Deco structure at Adams and Western designed by renowned black architect Paul Williams. It housed what is still the nation's largest black-owned insurer.
hmm is 1948 BEFORE the Korean war? hmm does "very wealthiest African-Americans" mean the average "black GI"? you have no clue. honestly you know like .0001% of the history of South Central and like the most abject uneducated backwards rube you think that HOW IT IS NOW IS HOW IT MUST HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. but that's no surprise. your entire worldview is entirely SUPERFICIAL and based on half formed opinions and ignorance of facts.
you've posted at least THREE TIMES about Beverly Hills and the Westside yet you have NO IDEA about those areas either. you would know that in the 1880s Hollywood was all orange groves. those areas basically didn't even EXIST then.
here's the crap you've said just in 2 pages:
1) West Adams was not affluent. WRONG. It was once one of the MOST affluent areas in LA, as I posted originally
2) There are no mansions . WRONG. There are some of the most important oldest homes in LA. Over seventy are recorded as historic.
3) It "was a working class neighborhoood, mostly whites, with some Japansese Americans" WRONG. It was a mixed area, including one of the most important historical black areas in LA.
4) "When USC was built, in the late 1800s" the neighborhood did not significant architecture or construction. WRONG. Almost all the historically significant buildings were built IN THAT TIME PERIOD from the 1880s/1890s to the early 1900s.
5) During when USC was built, the affluent areas were on the West Side, Beverly Hills. WRONG. Beverly Hills was not even open until 1906, 20 years after the time you're talking about. Most of the Westside were orange groves. And you declare these were the "affluent" areas. Lol yeah tents with orange groves, much more "AFFLUENT" than million dollar mansions in West Adams
6) Korean War caused white flight. WRONG. Freeway system and race dynamics in the 1950s made white flight possible
7) "After the 50s" is the 1950s. WRONG. By definition it's the 1960s, when the Watts Riots, Black Panthers, cultural unrest etc all completed the transition of the area into a BLACK AREA, as I originally posted.
you are an imbecile. seriously the real questions are:
1) exactly what parts of LA have you actually been to?
2) do you know anything about LA at all??
3) do you know the meaning of the word AFFLUENT?
4) do you KNOW what a mansion IS?
5) do you know what the world A-F-T-E-R means
it's plain assumed that you have no clue about
a) white flight
b) the historical districts of LA
c) the real estate development of LA
d) LA riots
e) what a black person looks like
f) what the West Adams neighborhood looks like now
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| temuchin |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:39 pm |
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I just have to highlight the abject and terrible ignorance of this Chinese:
he literally gets his history from a movie. he has no education. no basis of fact. he will never bother to pick up a book
his entire worldview is literally what he sees on Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow and MOVIES.
look at this ******.
he reads a PLOT SUMMARY of a Hollywood movie:
Dr. Moranus wrote:
Quote: In the summer of 1948, WW2 veteran Easy Rawlins is recently laid off from his job at Champion Aircraft, and needs money urgently to pay his mortgage. Easy recounts how he moved to Los Angeles after serving in WW-II when his friend Joppy (Mel Winkler), who runs a bar, introduces him to a white man named DeWitt Albright (Tom Sizemore).
he internalizes that and look what he in his mind now believes is the "history" of the area:
Dr. Moranus wrote:
after WW2, many new Aerospace cos started in LA. many Black GI stay and got relatively good-paying jobs. with GI benefits, they were able to buy homes in So central----not the West side nor Miracle Miles nor Beverly Hills nor Pasadena, which were / are where the affuents live.
HE IS A LITERAL IMBECILE.
history doesn't matter. the fact that it was a center of white wealth and then black community for him DOES NOT EXIST. why? it wasn't IN THE MOVIE HE SAW.
this is literally what he does with all his politics too... he regurgitates what he sees on Jon Stewart. IF STEWART DOES NOT SAY IT, IT DOES NOT EXIST.
that's why he's always calling basic facts that everyone on this board knows, like the height to wingspan ratio as "lies" and "verbosity." IT LITERALLY DOES NOT EXIST. and until he sees it in a movie it will never exist.
again ALL HIS INFORMATION IS FROM A MOVIE. even though HE LIVES IN THE CITY. think about that.... he lives in a city that he DOES NOT KNOW and 99% of which he HAS NEVER BEEN. he thinks Obama is Will Smith. literally. he thinks blacks are like ppl he sees in rap videos. he's an imbecile. L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y
it's incredible that someone lives life like this. yet we all know that he's actually BOTH a typical Chinese and a typical American. taking the worst traits of both, slamming other Chinese as FOBS yet too STUPID to pick up a book and actually know anything about the world like an American
im mocking Moranus but it's depressing more than anything. because you realize that he isn't in any way special. this is literally how most Americans who voted for Obama think... they saw some Will Smith movie or 24 with the black guy president as the hero and they now internalize and will go to the grave fighting that black guy presidents are heroes. Not based on anything... but just because they saw it in a movie. They see Hollywood movies with Chinese or Arab villains and their opinions of China and Iran are hostile. etc |
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| R0cket |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:58 pm |
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Wow, this is truly amazing. You guys will argue about anything!
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| sd7 |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:25 pm |
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| How can anyone here be surprised that an Associated Press article is using this as a springboard to bash China? They do it all the time. |
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| temuchin |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:47 pm |
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R0cket wrote: Wow, this is truly amazing. You guys will argue about anything!
whats amazing is that Dr Moranus can be wrong about everything!
and instead of just accepting it and moving on he's going to fight about it for days
I mean I posted that area originally was nice but now it's a black area that's traditionally had a lot of crime.
Dr Moranus responded by having a spasm about how that wasn't in the Denzel movie he saw ergo "lies" and "verbosity" |
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| jungle |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:15 pm |
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| so any news on this case? theres been alot deadly killings within asians and the suspects being asian in the bay area as of late. vietnamese man kills 5 family members, korean man goes nuts and kills 7 innocents, and many other crimes such as a asian man sexually assaulting women in the streets of oakland. i guess this is the year of asian men whether its basketball or going nuts. |
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| pryuen |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:34 pm |
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temuchin wrote:
whats amazing is that Dr Moranus can be wrong about everything!
and instead of just accepting it and moving on he's going to fight about it for days
I mean I posted that area originally was nice but now it's a black area that's traditionally had a lot of crime.
Dr Moranus responded by having a spasm about how that wasn't in the Denzel movie he saw ergo "lies" and "verbosity"
And EVEN it's a black area, most of the blacks that moved in to the West Adams area after 1948 were AFFLUENT BLACK.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Los_Angeles
As the wealthy were building stately mansions in West Adams and Jefferson Park, the white working class was establishing itself in Crenshaw and Hyde Park. Affluent blacks gradually moved into West Adams and Jefferson Park as the decades passed.
Don't think Dr. Moranus know the meaning of AFFLUENT, and knows SH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!T about the area that he claimed he was born there !!!!
And to claim that the Korean War changed the demographics of South Central Los Angles is REALLY RIDICULOUS AND LAUGHABLE. He did not even know that it was the freeway construction in the 1950s that had radically altered the geography of Southern Los Angeles. |
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